Cliff Christl started accumulating oral histories with former Packers and other people linked with the staff in 2000 and will continue to assemble them as Packers historian. Excerpts from people interviews will be periodically posted at www.packers.com
The Astor Lodge served as home to quite a few Packers, specifically the one ones, for at least three decades. Players started out keeping there in the late 1920s, notably just after Jake Geurts and Herman Holz procured and remodeled the hotel in 1929, and some have been however residing there just after Vince Lombardi took around as Packers coach in 1959. Two girls, Mayme Toule and Sue Wallen, ran the lodge for most of the years when Curly Lambeau was coaching and almost certainly performed a larger aspect in the Packers’ survival than anyone has ever recognized. They appeared just after the players virtually as if they had been their have youngsters and made them come to feel at home whilst residing in a bizarre town with no roots. Jim Miller was Toule’s son and Wallen’s nephew, and he hung about the resort as a youthful boy and later worked there as a teen. The Astor Resort bar was also a well known hangout for Packers lovers both equally through Prohibition and just after. “The Astor Hotel was like a fraternity dwelling for the players and Sue Wallen was our property mother,” Packers Hall of Fame center Charley Brock explained just after the lodge was ruined by hearth in 1966. Truly, when Lambeau was mentor, other than when the Packers lived at Rockwood Lodge in the late 1940s, he’d convey to his gamers, in particular the rookies, to report to the Astor when they arrived in city and they’d be welcomed to Green Bay and specified the preparations for their stay. “She seemed immediately after us like she was our mother,” stop Nolan Luhn, who played for the Packers from 1945 to 1949, explained of Wallen yrs later on. “A real pleasant woman. She’d discuss to every one particular of the players just about every day. She’d extra or less display prank calls or whichever. She realized each and every participant and their mother and dad and girlfriends.” Toule labored at the Astor for a lot of the 1930s ahead of Wallen replaced her as assistant supervisor. Wallen then labored there right up until she remarried in 1947. Six a long time earlier, her son, Earl D. Wallen, a Marine non-public, died at Pearl Harbor. He was Eco-friendly Bay’s first casualty in Globe War II. Miller was born in Green Bay in 1928.
On the years his mother, aunt and he worked at the Astor: “My mother was married to James R. Toule, my organic father. I was born in ’28 and my father died in ’28. My mother was now performing there at the time. She commenced as a clerk and grew to become supervisor. When she turned supervisor, I are unable to pinpoint that. I might say she ran it – and this would be a rather exact guess – from ’32 until finally ’38, when she remarried. Charles R. Miller was my stepfather. I was a bellhop there in ’42. And when my mom remarried, my Aunt Sue took above as supervisor. And she managed it till she married afterwards on. I went to junior high at Environmentally friendly Bay West and then we moved to Missouri.”
On the gamers who lived there through the period when he labored there: “In individuals days, the Packer players, the one kinds, stayed there. Of study course, they were not building tens of millions, they have been creating hundreds. The married players didn’t remain there. I virtually observed Clarke Hinkle, all the greats of the time.”
On his mom and aunt wanting immediately after the players: “This was back when younger men had a small much more principles. I know my mother and Aunt Sue did. So no issue for me. You are familiar with Johnny Blood. My Aunt Sue advised me that at least the moment she experienced to send Johnny Blood revenue to get again to Green Bay to engage in ball. He was quite the vagabond. I lived in Pensaukee (north of Eco-friendly Bay) and (Blood) used the summertime right here way back again when romancing a single of the Drolette women.”
How would you explain the Astor? “It was a compact lodge. The Astor fronted on Adams Road. I am going to describe the road from south to north: Bosse’s News Depot was on the corner (of Adams and Cherry streets). Next was Timmer’s Barber Store, which was adjacent to the Astor foyer. The front entrance of the Astor had a marquee about the entrance with cables and turnbuckles and the Astor Hotel brand on it. Following, came the Astor bar with a door from the lodge foyer to the bar. Then, I consider, it was a auto dealership, quite possibly an business source retail store and Oliver’s Ice Product shop was on the corner (at Adams and Pine streets).”